Thanks I appreciate it I'm an explorer by virtue of my phone and not sure when it comes to the phone when i had my Sprint PPC6700 I had a few programmers from India helping me. Now with the iPhone all my friends want to leave it stock and do not explore the opportunities JB brings. I appreciate your quick response. I had JB'd with limera1n on Sunday and didn't want too miss the boat on one being better than the other.