It outdated ONLY on Verizon since iPhone 4s can not use their 4G network. It will only work with old 3G. Other than that it is great. My 4s on AT&T works fantastically in 4G."The iPhone is a great phone, but it's on 3G," said one representative at a Verizon Wireless store in midtown Manhattan. "I'm not going to recommend a phone that's outdated.".
im not going to pretend i understand all of this conversation but the above jumped out at me.....iphone 4s outdated???..i don't think so.
You are missing the point. Verizon is pushing phones witch can take advantage of their fastest network 4G. iPhone is incapable of that. Here is quote from this article to ilustrate this point "
In each of the 10 discussions, representatives steered me toward either the Motorola (MMI) Droid Razr Maxx, the Droid Razr, or the LG Lucid -- all 4G-capable phones running Google's (GOOG, Fortune 500) Android software. When I asked if those devices were better than the iPhone, they responded that the iPhone was an inferior alternative because it only runs on the company's slower 3G network.
It's true that Verizon's iPhone is 3G-only. Apple doesn't yet make a version compatible with Verizon's 4G network, which potentially offers download speeds up to 10 times faster than on 3G.
"The iPhone is a great phone, but it's on 3G," said one representative at a Verizon Wireless store in midtown Manhattan. "I'm not going to recommend a phone that's outdated.".
Do not try to kill the messenger. I own 2 iPhones 3G (JB and unlocked for my travel) and 4S. They are great, but if you need 4G with Verizon, iPhone can nor do it and you can not change that fact. I hope that iPhone 5 will be able to handle 4G on Verizon (I will move away from AT&T early next year), if not I will get Android.
It outdated ONLY on Verizon since iPhone 4s can not use their 4G network. It will only work with old 3G. Other than that it is great. My 4s on AT&T works fantastically in 4G.
I totally agree with you, let me tell you why. I bought an iPhone 4S on April 3rd of this year. The first thing I did when I got home was run the speed test net app on my new iPhone (3G, Verizon) and on my three android phones (all WiMax, Sprint), including the htc Evo 4G (a flagship phone). I ran the test several times on all of the devices and found that the iPhone 4S was faster at everything than the Sprint phones, including the Evo 4G. Needless to say, my jaw dropped."The iPhone is a great phone, but it's on 3G," said one representative at a Verizon Wireless store in midtown Manhattan. "I'm not going to recommend a phone that's outdated.".
im not going to pretend i understand all of this conversation but the above jumped out at me.....iphone 4s outdated???..i don't think so.
Thank you so much for thatYour AT&T iPhone 4S IS NOT on LTE. It is on 3G using the HSPA+ specification. AT&T negotiated a change to iOS to enable their iPhone to show that difference.
Now to make things even more interesting, the reason they are LEGALLY able to use the 4G (trademarked symbol) even though they are NOT using LTE as the carrier frequency is because of a backdoor deal with the LTE specification holders that said "IF your device will be able to switch from HSPA+ to LTE within one year, you can use the 4G symbol".
BTW, that is all the rage in the UK right now and it is causing all sorts of confusion.
yes you're so right,I'm on 3 mobile here in the UK and what skull one just said about the confusion here is so right too,i remember all the debate about that,when I'm not on wifi i get 3g and believe me its fast,i can't imagine it being any faster.I totally agree with you, let me tell you why. I bought an iPhone 4S on April 3rd of this year. The first thing I did when I got home was run the speed test net app on my new iPhone (3G, Verizon) and on my three android phones (all WiMax, Sprint), including the htc Evo 4G (a flagship phone). I ran the test several times on all of the devices and found that the iPhone 4S was faster at everything than the Sprint phones, including the Evo 4G.
3G, 4G.. those are just numbers and letters to me and I don't really care about them. The real proof is how the device handles things when I'm using it in my area.. and the iPhone 4S ran circles around my previous phones.
Do you even read my post?. I did not say iPhone 4s works on LTE. I stated that iPhone WORKS on AT&T 4G network (it displays 4G connection on the phone). You can "spin doctor" whatever you want, but the fact remains iPhone DOESN'T work on Verizon 4G networks. BTW, I don't care about UK, I am not there. When I get there, please update me on their situation.Your AT&T iPhone 4S IS NOT on LTE. It is on 3G using the HSPA+ specification. AT&T negotiated a change to iOS to enable their iPhone to show that difference.
Now to make things even more interesting, the reason they are LEGALLY able to use the 4G (trademarked symbol) even though they are NOT using LTE as the carrier frequency is because of a backdoor deal with the LTE specification holders that said "IF your device will be able to switch from HSPA+ to LTE within one year, you can use the 4G symbol".
BTW, that is all the rage in the UK right now and it is causing all sorts of confusion.
Do you even read my post?. I did not say iPhone 4s works on LTE. I stated that iPhone WORKS on AT&T 4G network (it displays 4G connection on the phone). You can "spin doctor" whatever you want, but the fact remains iPhone DOESN'T work on Verizon 4G networks. BTW, I don't care about UK, I am not there. When I get there, please update me on their situation.
andrzejls said:Do you even read my post?. I did not say iPhone 4s works on LTE. I stated that iPhone WORKS on AT&T 4G network (it displays 4G connection on the phone). You can "spin doctor" whatever you want, but the fact remains iPhone DOESN'T work on Verizon 4G networks. BTW, I don't care about UK, I am not there. When I get there, please update me on their situation.
And you didn't comprehend my post. AT&T use of the 4G symbol is a MARKETING PLOY. It has nothing to do with LTE. It has EVERYTHING to do with perception however.
Lets try a different explanation. The iPhone 4S is a CDMA and GSM based phone. It can only operate on the 3G frequencies approved by the FCC. So legally the iPhone 4S under AT&T can't use any other frequency range.
Before iOS 5.01 came out, AT&T went before the review board of the LTE rights holders and requested an exception to use the 4G trademarked symbol on a 3G only device. Their rational was based on the UK precedence of allowing companies to market HSPA+ as "4G" until they could bring the full LTE specification online. HSPA+ is about 3 times faster than baseline 3G. In fact internally it is sometimes called 3.5G. AT&T operates both a 3G and 3G HSPA+ network. This request was done before their first LTE towers were even spun up for use.
So the term 4G under AT&T is a SHAM. A gimmick. It is a 3G phone with a different label because they begged someone to legally use a trademark and the FCC couldn't do anything to stop them even though it is a LIE.
Pretty dang funny if you ask me. The really interesting part about this is? You bought in to their lie. Hook, line and sinker.